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tahoemedic
10-20-2013, 07:06 PM
Just picked up my 1969 Sanger today and towed it to my uncle's house. The boat has been sitting for 25 years in a horse pasture. The old owner got into drugs and started pulling parts off to sell for drugs. After he died 5 or 10 years ago, the boat continued to sit and rot. The guys mother told her son's friend that she needed him to get rid of everything in her yard. Whatever he sold, he could keep the money for payment. I offered him $450 for it and he took it. The hull came with the tandem trailer, complete manual cavitation plate, motor mounts, polished aluminum gas caps and deck mounted tach housing, 10 degree split case Cassale v-drive that still rotates as smooth as butter, a brass rutter, and the steering is hall-craft cable/pulley system.

Now the bad news...I found dry-rot in the stringers at the motor mounts, on the back side of the dash, and down the left side cap rail. Otherwise the boat is structurally solid. Any suggestions on how to fix the stringers would be greatly appreciated. I will post a bunch of pics tomorrow.

"THE ADVOCATE"
10-20-2013, 07:10 PM
Grinder and fiberglass. Pretty much SOP for a deal! But, what else do we have to do.

wolfie
10-20-2013, 07:37 PM
Not too difficult. Cut the stringers out. Leave a little lip at the hull to set the new stringer in so you have it in the right spot. Then just fiberglass in. I'll be doing my bulkheads and toe boards.

Sleek Freak
10-20-2013, 07:48 PM
its best to build a stand or dolly that will retain the bottom shape of the hull before you start cutting out the stringers. if the stringer are intact carefully cut them out flush with the floor to use as a pattern for the new ones. sometimes its best to replace one then the other so you have one to reference off from.

tahoemedic
10-21-2013, 10:05 PM
here are the pics as promised...it's a rough start but has good bones!
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa2/azmedic2007/20131021_121422.jpg (http://s199.photobucket.com/user/azmedic2007/media/20131021_121422.jpg.html)
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa2/azmedic2007/20131021_121503.jpg (http://s199.photobucket.com/user/azmedic2007/media/20131021_121503.jpg.html)
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa2/azmedic2007/20131021_121439.jpg (http://s199.photobucket.com/user/azmedic2007/media/20131021_121439.jpg.html)

tahoemedic
10-21-2013, 10:06 PM
More:
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa2/azmedic2007/20131021_121429.jpg (http://s199.photobucket.com/user/azmedic2007/media/20131021_121429.jpg.html)
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa2/azmedic2007/20131021_121451.jpg (http://s199.photobucket.com/user/azmedic2007/media/20131021_121451.jpg.html)
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa2/azmedic2007/20131021_121515.jpg (http://s199.photobucket.com/user/azmedic2007/media/20131021_121515.jpg.html)

tahoemedic
10-21-2013, 10:09 PM
Still more:
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa2/azmedic2007/20131021_121521.jpg (http://s199.photobucket.com/user/azmedic2007/media/20131021_121521.jpg.html)
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa2/azmedic2007/20131021_121531.jpg (http://s199.photobucket.com/user/azmedic2007/media/20131021_121531.jpg.html)
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa2/azmedic2007/20131021_121723.jpg (http://s199.photobucket.com/user/azmedic2007/media/20131021_121723.jpg.html)

tahoemedic
10-21-2013, 10:11 PM
and all the hardware goodies that came with it:
Casale split-case v-drive:
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa2/azmedic2007/20131021_121836.jpg (http://s199.photobucket.com/user/azmedic2007/media/20131021_121836.jpg.html)
all the polished hardware including the Nicson water pump and the Brass Glenwood rudder.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa2/azmedic2007/20131021_121850.jpg (http://s199.photobucket.com/user/azmedic2007/media/20131021_121850.jpg.html)

David
10-22-2013, 05:23 AM
Sexy lines on that hull for sure...

wolfie
10-22-2013, 06:47 AM
Looks like a nice project!!! Sanger always had some beautiful lines!!

454 blue boat
10-22-2013, 09:21 AM
Oboy you got your work cut out for you been there done that lol

tahoemedic
10-22-2013, 12:41 PM
Just got off the phone with Casale V-drives. He was able to trace down the numbers on the bottom of the case. Turns out I have a 12 degree, split-case with 1:18 gear ratio drive that is original to the boat. That just made this project get way cooler. Bill at Southwind offered to show me what I needed to do, provided I do the labor end (which I'm very excited about) so a big Thanks to him already!

78_Tahiti
10-22-2013, 01:28 PM
Bill is like a walking Encylopedia of Hot Boat Information & How Too's! Good looking hull!

tahoemedic
10-22-2013, 05:02 PM
Yeah he even checked my v-drive for me to make sure it had the right amount of play in the shaft...

Sleek Freak
10-22-2013, 06:37 PM
you can't go wrong with a sanger, but I would never want one.:zwhistle:

tahoemedic
10-22-2013, 06:48 PM
Talked with Sanger today about how they are building the new boats so solid. Using some new technology, I'm going to incorporate into mine. When I replace the stringers, I'm using a glue laminated lumber that is laminated vertically instead of like the typical glue lam beam that the members are laid flat and laminated. This allows for the glue lam to be done vertically making for a 2x member that is 10x stronger than dimensional lumber and resistant to dry rot. Should also lessen the chance for stress cracks. I have to rebuild the bulkheads that were under the seats but I plan to add 2 more on the seat edges to help support the seats better and stiffen the cap rails so they won't crack as well. The main bulkhead is intact but getting through the opening to clean out under the deck will be challenging. I also have to replace the eye on the bottom since at some point it pulled through. Next week I hope to make a trip down and measure the boat for a dolly.

tahoemedic
10-22-2013, 06:50 PM
you can't go wrong with a sanger, but I would never want one.:zwhistle:

hmm...don't you have a shovelnose hydro?

Sleek Freak
10-22-2013, 11:43 PM
you can't go wrong with a sanger, but I would never want one.:zwhistle:

you can't go wrong with a sanger, but I would never want one.:zwhistle:

wolfie
10-23-2013, 07:14 AM
you can't go wrong with a sanger, but I would never want one.:zwhistle:

Of course you don't want one. You want three or four, or maybe even corner the market on them!

tahoemedic
10-24-2013, 03:20 PM
well I can only afford one for now...besides, in 10 years I'll add a Belmont to my collection

tahoemedic
10-24-2013, 11:12 PM
So I posed this question to White Lightning to Franger...There is some debate on how I should set up my v-drive. I currently have the 12 deg split case Casale that came with the boat. Folks are telling me that this can cause the boat to hop around at high speeds and that I should change it over to a 10 deg. What are your thoughts on this? Also from doing a little engineering research it seems that when the stringers are a bit weak or just plain worn out in these flat bottoms, it allows the hull to distort and cause the "porpousing" even more. That part I will have corrected when I install the structural grade LVL material for the new stringers with base coat of glass/resin with carbon fiber on top. Although my expertise with carbon fiber has lessened since not having done it in 10 years. I will probably just laminate them, then use duratek to get the color, sand, polish and be done with it. One thing I am adding for sure is a complete rail system. I'm still undecided if I will tie it into the v-drive supports or not.

tahoemedic
11-17-2013, 04:17 PM
Well I brought the boat down to my parents' house to work on. Was able to make a bit of progress today. I decided to wash it and get the moss and mud/grime off but that wasn't so easy. It took over 2 hours and now sore arms but it looks completely different than it did when I got it.

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa2/azmedic2007/20131117_152438.jpg (http://s199.photobucket.com/user/azmedic2007/media/20131117_152438.jpg.html)
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa2/azmedic2007/20131117_152453.jpg (http://s199.photobucket.com/user/azmedic2007/media/20131117_152453.jpg.html)

Sleek Freak
11-17-2013, 05:43 PM
the sanger is sporting a new look.:like: no more duck hunting out of it. run your 12* box, the boat will never know the difference unless you're going all out.

tahoemedic
11-18-2013, 12:59 AM
I'm keeping the 12* box since my boat was already set up with a 9* strut, whip strut, and shaft log. I will be adding a rail system for the motor mounts, strut brace, and steering brace.

tahoemedic
05-11-2014, 09:34 PM
Not much of an update since I've been working like crazy lately and haven't had any time to go play with the boat. But I have been getting parts here and there and have just secured an 8-port Hilborn mechanical fuel injection setup for the boat and a set of big block chevy rectangular port cast iron heads to keep things period correct. I'm working on getting an original Jones mechanical tach with the Sanger logo on the face. If I can get that, the rest should be down hill as that is a rare part.

78hallett
05-13-2014, 03:15 PM
are you still interested in my fuel tanks? Here are the specs: Imco 48" x 8 1/2" round tanks 11.5 gallons each.

tahoemedic
05-13-2014, 06:47 PM
Yeah. I have $40 eating a hole in my pocket!

78hallett
05-13-2014, 07:03 PM
Hmmm that might get you the draw tube........on one tank :)

tahoemedic
05-13-2014, 07:34 PM
you never mentioned a price there...i might consider more if you're diverter actually works. lol

78hallett
05-14-2014, 08:12 AM
LOL I will be testing it soon. Ill make sure I take pics just for you :rooster: I was thinking $250.00 for both tanks.

tahoemedic
05-14-2014, 03:23 PM
that sounds good to me.

78hallett
05-14-2014, 06:18 PM
Perfect!! i should be pulling them in about 3 weeks when i start the new carpet.

tahoemedic
05-14-2014, 08:01 PM
well I'm one part closer to the finish line albeit a long way away. Very pleased to add this to my parts collection. An original Jones Mechanical Tach with the Sanger Boats logo on the dial.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa2/azmedic2007/20140514_195229.jpg (http://s199.photobucket.com/user/azmedic2007/media/20140514_195229.jpg.html)